Today (27th November 2016) is the day the van moved on to its new owners
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Subaru Domingo / Libero /Samba vw project
Saturday, 11 February 2017
I have had a couple of people ask what is wrong with the van (I guess my previous posts have been too much info). So, in a nutshell, to get the van on the road, it will need the following:
* fit the passenger sliding door handle (brand new genuine one included, but needs colour coding, or not, before fitting)
* solve the running issue. With the distributor in the correct position it will not start. Advance the distributor and it starts but runs too fast. I am guessing it is either a faulty sensor or possibly something wrong with the distributor. New dizzy from Subaru is just under £300 or there is a second hand one on ebay for £90 approx delivered from Germany.
* repair the leaking gearbox sump and top up with transmission fluid (some of the bolts would do up, then go loose again, so it may be possible to replace a couple of bolts, worse case it might need a couple re threading with larger bolts)
* investigate the clutch temp light (this might have been due to low transmission fluid, or might need clearing now the gearbox has been repaired,. the battery has been off for several months now, so it might have even cleared itself)
*put it through an MOT. (As it has sat a long time the brakes may need attention, although I have always left it with the handbrake off, gearbox in park, and there are hub caps covering the discs. When I have needed to move it, it has moved easily, so they may be fine, but this is the only other thing I can think of that might need checking before MOT)
That should be everything. Any questions please message me
FOR SALE!!
Unfortunately i think the time has come to sell the Domingo :-(
Another 2 months have passed since i cleaned it (it's on my parents drive and they keep hinting that it needs to move!).. and unfortunately i cannot see myself finding any time soon to work on it. I am in the middle of renovating my house, and have several other projects (another van, an impreza, jetski, trailer and most importantly my girlfriends car,. she keeps asking me to get on with hers, as its front bumper is currently held on with cable ties! :-)
If you are viewing this page, you probably know about the Domingo's already (the big brother to the Sambar). Currently on Ebay there are 4 for sale (a non runner for £2180, 2 standard Domingo's for £5,385 & £5,985, and 1 VW camper look alike for £8,999).
I would like the Domingo to go to a good home (as you can see below i have invested a lot of time and effort getting it to where it is) and i am not in a rush to sell (i think telling my parents it is for sale will keep them happy for a while ;-)
I will include a load of spares (if you scroll down you will see a post with pics of spares i stripped from another Domingo,. everything from glass to window motors to seat belts etc)
I also have a spare set of Sambar VW bumpers and side skirts (in a different style, with risers), which i will include with the sale (they have been knocked around in storage a bit and will need a bit of work before fitting - see attached pic)
STILL TO DO:
to get the van running and road legal it will require the following
* fitting the passenger sliding door handle (brand new genuine one included, but needs colour coding before fitting)
* solve the running issue (i am guessing it is either a faulty sensor or possibly something wrong with the distributor,. see below for info on the issue, or feel free to ask any questions)
* repair the leaking gearbox sump (some of the bolts would do up, then go loose again, so it may be possible to replace a couple of bolts, worse case it might need a couple re threading with larger bolts)
* investigate the clutch temp light (this might have been due to low transmission fluid, or might need clearing now the gearbox has been repaired,. the battery has been off for 2 months now, so it might have even cleared itself).
to get the van running and road legal it will require the following
* fitting the passenger sliding door handle (brand new genuine one included, but needs colour coding before fitting)
* solve the running issue (i am guessing it is either a faulty sensor or possibly something wrong with the distributor,. see below for info on the issue, or feel free to ask any questions)
* repair the leaking gearbox sump (some of the bolts would do up, then go loose again, so it may be possible to replace a couple of bolts, worse case it might need a couple re threading with larger bolts)
* investigate the clutch temp light (this might have been due to low transmission fluid, or might need clearing now the gearbox has been repaired,. the battery has been off for 2 months now, so it might have even cleared itself).
I think that is everything. I will try to get to the van soon and record a video of it running when you advance the distributor, and check if the clutch temp light is still showing.
BODYWORK
* It has been keyed down the passengers side. it is through the red paint in areas, but not through the original green paint, so it is not a rust issue (i have had it sat for many years and it has not started to rust)
* The front bumper is a bit cracked (see pics). It can be left as it is,.. my intention was to repair it or replace with the 'riser' style bumper (included)
* Rear bumper is a bit scuffed and dented. Again it can be left as it is, or repainted or modified... I will include the 'riser' style rear bumper and rear panel. They are designed for a Sambar and will need modifying to fit the Domingo (the rear bumper of the Domingo protrudes further than the Sambar to accommodate the larger engine / exhaust). I have attached a couple of pics of another Domingo with the rear end conversion. i was planning on doing something similar (but less bulky looking).
* It has been keyed down the passengers side. it is through the red paint in areas, but not through the original green paint, so it is not a rust issue (i have had it sat for many years and it has not started to rust)
* The front bumper is a bit cracked (see pics). It can be left as it is,.. my intention was to repair it or replace with the 'riser' style bumper (included)
* Rear bumper is a bit scuffed and dented. Again it can be left as it is, or repainted or modified... I will include the 'riser' style rear bumper and rear panel. They are designed for a Sambar and will need modifying to fit the Domingo (the rear bumper of the Domingo protrudes further than the Sambar to accommodate the larger engine / exhaust). I have attached a couple of pics of another Domingo with the rear end conversion. i was planning on doing something similar (but less bulky looking).
FOR SALE
So you are buying an M reg, 1994, Subaru Domingo, 1.2L ECVT automatic with a VW bodykit and 50's style 'American diner' seats. It was imported in 2011. I am told it had full service history before being imported (though mostly in Japanese!) and includes all import/export documents. when it arrived it had a full service including cambelt. I am the 2nd uk owner and have carried out all of the work detailed below. It has the faults listed above.The mileage is 58,250 (The import docs show the mileage was 87638km and converted to 54097miles when it arrived in the uk, 19/03/2011). It will include all the spares below, the extra vw bumpers and skirts, the service manual (in german) and subaru justy ecvt manuals (in english). It is a non runner and will require a trailer/flatbed to take it away. It is located in NW7 London. Viewings welcome (but serious buyers only as it is a 1hr45min round trip to meet you at the van). Running, the Domingo's are worth over £5k and a lot more with the vw conversion. I will sell everything for £3600 ono.
So you are buying an M reg, 1994, Subaru Domingo, 1.2L ECVT automatic with a VW bodykit and 50's style 'American diner' seats. It was imported in 2011. I am told it had full service history before being imported (though mostly in Japanese!) and includes all import/export documents. when it arrived it had a full service including cambelt. I am the 2nd uk owner and have carried out all of the work detailed below. It has the faults listed above.The mileage is 58,250 (The import docs show the mileage was 87638km and converted to 54097miles when it arrived in the uk, 19/03/2011). It will include all the spares below, the extra vw bumpers and skirts, the service manual (in german) and subaru justy ecvt manuals (in english). It is a non runner and will require a trailer/flatbed to take it away. It is located in NW7 London. Viewings welcome (but serious buyers only as it is a 1hr45min round trip to meet you at the van). Running, the Domingo's are worth over £5k and a lot more with the vw conversion. I will sell everything for £3600 ono.
I think i have covered everything :-) but any questions feel free to comment or pm me. Thanks!
Tuesday, 19 July 2016
Wednesday, 10 December 2014
Subaru Domingo / Libero / Sambar VW bodykit purchase
Hi, and welcome to my blog! :-)
I have been a subaru fan for many years,. I started with Impreza’s, so when I needed a small van 7-8 years ago, the obvious choice was to buy a subaru sumo (produced from 1983-1998, also known as the Subaru Libero in the European market, Subaru Columbuss in Sweden, Subaru Domingo or Subaru Estratto in the Japanese market,.. sometimes also called Subaru E10 and Subaru E12 - the names referring to the size of the engines, 1.0 litre or 1.2 litre respectively). A selectable 4WD system was available on the 1.2 L models.
I bought a K reg (1992) Subaru sumo 1.0 litre (E10) from ebay described as running but noisy, suspected blowing exhaust / exhaust manifold ,. When I went to pick it up the battery was conveniently flat and the guy had pushed it out of a garage onto a high street and said it was really noisy, sounded like there was no exhaust attached at all, so he wouldn’t advise jump starting it.. So I took it home on trust.
When I got it home I checked the water and oil and noticed the dip stick was dry. Started pouring oil in before noticing a puddle appearing on the floor as quickly as I was adding it! Looked underneath and found a large hole in the engine block! 80 characters was not enough for the eBay feedback I wanted to leave for the seller! :-)
not put off by my first experience, I ended up buying another Subaru sumo from eBay (which was a good buy – still using it today)
In the 90’s Subaru released the Subaru Sambar, a 660cc, 5 seat van with an optional supercharger and intercooler package, coupled with fuel injection. An automatic transmission (ECVT system) was offered along with full-time 4WD system. The Subaru Sambar is classed as a Kei car - a Japanese category of small vehicle, designed to comply with Japanese government tax and insurance regulations. The regulations restrict physical size and engine displacement. These standards originated in the times following the end of the Second World War, when most Japanese could not afford a full-sized car, yet had enough to buy a motorcycle. To promote the growth of the car industry, as well as to offer an alternative delivery method to small business and shop owners, kei car standards were created.
The Subaru Domingo shared many characteristics with the Subaru Sambar, except it had extended front and rear bumpers and was powered by a 1.0- or 1.2-litre 3-cylinder EF engine (taking it out of the kei car range) based on those used in the Subaru Justy. The increased power meant a maximum seating capacity of 7 was possible. In 1994, Subaru's Full Time 4WD was added to the options list with the ECVT automatic transmissionIn Japan many of the Sambar's / Domingo’s have been fitted with a bodykit to replicate the VW campervan (but smaller :-) ).
In March 2013 I bought a M reg, 1994, Subaru Domingo, 1.2L ECVT automatic with a VW bodykit from ebay. The Ad Read:
Broken
gearbox. Broken lock due to attempted break in - broken central locking system.
One of the back door handles broken. Scratched on one side (not deep).
Registration plate cracked top right corner. Scuff marks on the back bumper
Reluctantly
we are selling our lovely Subaru Domingo VW replica. We imported the car from
Japan in 2011 and it's simply the cutest car in the world! A real head turner,
spreading smiles everywhere we go. Please note this is the 1.2l version, with 7
seats and can comfortably do 70mph. Beautiful on the inside too, with 50's
style 'American diner' seats. Very low tax, low mileage and excellent mpg.
It is
currently SORN, needing a new gearbox. Unfortunately while it was at the garage
an attempted break in has damaged one of the locks, immobilizing the central
locking system. We don't have the resources to get it fixed or keep it safely
off road, so we feel it's time to pass it on to someone who will be able to
give it the care it deserves. Other than a couple of small scratches, the
bodywork is in excellent condition, and we are told that the engine, given the
age, is also in excellent condition. FSH (though mostly in Japanese!) and all
import/export documents included.
I
arranged for it to be Collected from Edinburgh on 15 April 2013, a couple of
days later it arrived J
I noticed the Fog light was broken and the
bumper was scuffed (probably by the delivery company)
Other
than that, it was as described. Started and idled fine, all electrics worked
(even hanging fog light) air con was cold. Bodywork was in good condition, no
rust, underneath very solid.
After
walking around the van I noted the following things to repair
*Door
lock & Central locking – going to add remote central locking /alarm to fix
this
*Replace
door handle (colour coded)
*Replace
cracked front number plate
*Replace
fog light
*Repaint
rear bumper and possibly add a splitter to match front bumper & side skirts
*Repair
scratch down passenger’s side
*Repair
front bumper crack
*Full
body detail (clay bar, DA polish, carnauba wax)
*Interior
deep clean valet
*Possibly
upgrade stereo system (Double din head unit and component speakers)
Turning to the
engine,
*Obviously the
gearbox needed to be repaired.
*The engine / engine
bay was very dirty – needed a thorough clean and paint (and I would clean /
paint the gearbox and engine and ancillaries whilst it was out)
*Air box needed
repainting
*Exhaust looked in
good condition, just needed a clean
*Gearbox dirty and
oily around the sump
*Rocker cover required
polishing
I started with the
easy job and replaced the number plate (including a chrome surround) J and ordered the replacement side door
handle from Subaru (which will be colour coded before installing)
GEARBOX PROBLEM:
The engine idles and revs fine, but there is a warning light on
the dash (clutch temp light) and the van does not even attempt to move when
selecting any gears.
Having never worked on a Domingo or ECVT gearbox before,. I began
researching. I found that the Domingo shared the ECVT gearbox with the Subaru
Justy. The transaxle combines a magnetic powder clutch with a steel belt and
two variable pulleys. The magnetic powder clutch is controlled by the
ECVT computer, which monitors engine speed, vehicle speed, and throttle
position. Power from the engine is transmitted through the transaxle
clutch and then to the drive pulley. A steel belt connects this drive
pulley to a larger pulley on the output shaft. The computer uses the
magnetic powder clutch to change the width of the two driven pulleys, thus
providing an infinite amount of gear ratios (instead of the traditional four
and five speeds).
The clutch operates by passing a current through a magnetic powder
(carbonyl iron) which fills the gap between the driving (engine-side) and
driven (gearbox/wheels side) plates. When the engine is at idle, no (or very
little) current is passed through the powder so the engine spins without
transferring force to the driven side.
As you press the throttle pedal, the current passed through the powder is raised and the powder becomes magnetised, sticking together more strongly and transferring more of the rotational force from the engine to the wheels. The electrical current is supplied by a pair of carbon brushes which rest against turning discs (called slip rings), which slot onto a splined axle.
As you press the throttle pedal, the current passed through the powder is raised and the powder becomes magnetised, sticking together more strongly and transferring more of the rotational force from the engine to the wheels. The electrical current is supplied by a pair of carbon brushes which rest against turning discs (called slip rings), which slot onto a splined axle.
The gear shifter has a familiar P-R-N-D-Ds layout. P ark is
a hydraulic lock, R everse is a mechanical gear, and N eutral is a pressure
relief system, just like in an automatic transmission. D rive engages the
powder clutch, but the car will not move until you press the throttle.
This is because the throttle position sensor (pin switch on the accelerator
pedal) charges up the powder clutch to apply tension to the belt. Ds is Drive
Sport, a setting that doubles engine RPM by altering the gear ratios of the
ECVT. This is useful when making passing manoeuvres and going up and down
steep hills. It is essentially doubling the final drive ratio of the
transaxle, doubling the RPM's to keep the engine higher in its power band.
I read that the throttle position sensor and the brushes in the
gearbox are common problems. I checked the throttle sensor and it appeared to
be working fine. Over time the brushes wear down. As the brushes wear, springs
in the brush holder push them further out until they are so worn, they either
periodically slip out of contact with the slip rings, or lose contact
completely, triggering the warning light on the dashboard. I removed the brushes
and they appeared to be fine, but not knowing what the original length should
have been (I noticed a line on the brushes and assume this is a wear marker,
and should be replaced once reached. Mine hadn’t reached it yet, but,.) I
decided it’s probably worth changing for a new set,..This turned out to be
harder than I thought. My local Subaru dealer said they were no longer
available. After searching online, I managed to find a set and had them
imported in.
Unfortunately, this
did not solve the problem. The engine still idled and revved fine, but there
was no movement when selecting D, Ds or reverse and the ‘clutch temp’ warning
light was also flashing on the dash. It appears, that the ECVT brain measures
the electrical resistance of the clutch coil. If the clutch temp increases, the
resistance will rise. A certain minimum resistance triggers the warning light
switch. This can be caused if the powder clutch has lost some of its
powder. If the clutch bearing is worn the powder can escape from the clutch (I
believe it needs to contain 65g to function correctly). Here is a pic I found
online of the clutch with a worn bearing, losing powder, and causing the clutch
light to come on)
Now
it was time to get the engine and gearbox out!,..Once the engine was removed it
was clear this was going to take some work!
The
gearbox was very dirty:
I
cleaned it thoroughly (I openly admit to having OCD J ) I unscrewed the sump nut and found lots of bits of metal in the
oil. I removed the sump and found the Metal belt had snapped! I think I might
have found the real problem! J I contacted Subaru and
asked how much a replacement belt would be:
Part no:
32435KA100 ECVT steel belt assy. £ 1303.09
Ouch! I searched around forums and some of the suppliers I
have used for the sumo and eventually found a new Subaru remanufactured Justy
ECVT gearbox from a company called IM Group (they sell off new/remanufactured
obsolete genuine Subaru parts). I searched exploded diagrams, cross referenced
part numbers, and although they are different boxes, many of the part numbers
corresponded to each other,. Most importantly the belt was the same J So on 22nd
august I picked up the Justy ECVT gearbox at the bargain price of £180! J.
Having looked at the exploded diagrams, I knew I did not want
to attempt to rebuild the box myself! I found an automatic gearbox specialist near me
and took both boxes to them,.. I thought they wouldn’t know where to start with a 20yr old, import only,
ecvt gearbox, but they said no problem! (they said it is very similar to the Nissan
Micra, which they have worked on many times). They took it apart and found a
couple of other damaged parts, 1 x pipe-pilot & 1 x nozzle. I bought genuine
Subaru parts (and a new oil strainer, rather than reuse the old one) and they
fixed it. I told them to take their time and I would pay cash,. In the end I think
they only charged £130 labour J
Whilst
they had the gearbox I got on with the rest of the engine:
*Engine
guard. Cleaned and painted
*Injection inlet manifold cleaned
*injector
rail cleaned
*Starter
motor cleaned and painted
*Alternator
cleaned
*Air
filter box painted
*engine
ancillaries mounts cleaned / painted
*cleaned
and painted engine mounts (hammerite paint and underbody seal)
*cleaned
and painted engine support bar (hammerite paint and underbody sealed ends &
welding points)
*cleaned
and painted engine bay and cleaned pipework
*cleaned
engine
*painted engine sump (added new magnetic sump nut and copper washer)
*Cleaned rockers and rocker cover (inside and out)
*Painted
engine block
*I
picked up the gearbox and decided to paint the sump
110-112
*The
reconditioned gearbox was ready to fit! J
Distributor
Issue. I forgot to take pictures!,. but when I removed the engine I found the
dist cap had been siliconed on and the wire had been modified (cut and
reconnected with a terminal block). You can see it here (cropped from a pic of
the engine before it was removed)
I
looked through the paperwork that came with the van. I found an invoice from
the import company dated 19/03/2011. It listed the work they carried out:
Docks collection
Fog light
Speedo chip
Speedo recalibration
MOT
Plates
Cat 2 Immobiliser
Underseal
Charge to Register
Cambelt charge
Service charge (carry out full service)
2 x amber bulbs
Remove and replace right hand rear wheel cylinder
REMOVE AND CLEAN OUT DISTRIBUTOR CAP AS CENTRAL OIL SEAL IS
LEAKING AND CONTAMINATING CAP. ENGINE MISFIRES WHEN WARM. HAVE CLEANED OUT
DISTRIBUTOR CAP BUT MAY NEED FURTHER INVESTIGATION IF PROBLEM REOCCURS AS MAY
BE IGNITION FAULT
I
have ordered a new cap and rotor arm, but they will take a couple of weeks to
arrive. For now, I have cleaned the silicone off, cleaned the cap and rotor
arm, and will replace the connection with a waterproof push fit connector.
*All
the parts were ready to go back on (including new magnetic sump nut and washer
for the gearbox and original Subaru gaskets – rocker cover, gearbox sump,
intake manifold, and new thermostat bolts)
*Engine
was reassembled (with new transmission fluid, engine oil, filter, thermostat
and coolant)
*The
powder clutch seemed to be in good condition, no play in the bearing, and no
powder escaping if you shook it.
*Gearbox
was attached
(very
happy at this point J )
And mounted onto the engine support bar
(this pic pleases my OCD! J ) |
*Ready
to go back into the van
I
gave the exhaust system a wash down,. Not sure what I am going to do with it
yet? I have used high heat on exhaust systems / shields before and after a couple
of months they have always started to flake and look terrible. So I am going to
have to think more on this later.
*The
exhaust, air box and ancillaries were all connected
Now
for the moment I had been waiting for. It fired up and idled perfectly.
Selected D and it moved! J Unfortunately, the clutch temp light was
still showing. I am not sure if the error code needs clearing, or if there is
still a fault. I did see some plugs under the steering wheel, which I believe
are used to read the fault codes (I read somewhere that on the Justy you plug
them together and read off the blinking dash lights to get fault codes, so I
assume it will be the same for the Domingo),. But so far so good!
My
brother is a mechanic and has a car ramp in his garden, so I have been working
on the van with him at his house. A couple of months had passed since we got
the van started and he hinted for me to come back and finish off J The cap and rotor arm had arrived so we replaced them. Tried to
start the van and it wouldn’t start,. We put the old cap and rotor on and it
still wouldn’t start. The engine would turn over freely, but it wouldn’t fire.
My brother also used to fit alarms & immobilisers and thought it might be
the aftermarket immobiliser they installed. When he removed the steering wheel
cowling he said they had done a very poor, quick job. Instead of cutting the
ignition wires back and replacing with the wires to the immobiliser, they had
just cut it and soldered the immobiliser in place and tucked the immobiliser box
up by the clocks. If you wanted to bypass the immobiliser all you would have to
do is cut the 2 wires going to the immobiliser and twist them together! (I wish
I had taken a picture) so he removed the immobiliser completely and soldered
the original wires back together. We tried to start it again, but unfortunately
it wouldn’t fire up and then the battery died so we gave up for the day. I also
found that the gearbox sump was leaking slightly. When I tightened the sump bolts
up I noticed a couple would go tight and then loosen off again, so I think I
will need to buy a couple of new bolts and maybe use some locktight to ensure
they do up tightly.
In
early 2014 I found someone breaking a 1995 Domingo, he agreed to let me take
whatever spares I wanted off of it (as long as I didn’t touch the
engine/gearbox or brakes). So I ended up with a load of spares,. J Everything from window glass to switches, to seat belts (I’ve
seen a couple of sambars being broken before, but i doubt I will ever find
another Domingo being broken!)
A
few more months went by and in June 2014 I went round and we tried again. We
put fresh fuel in and new spark plugs on it. We also cut the waterproof
connector off of the distributor (it turned out to be a very faddily connector,
so we were concerned it might not be working right) and put bullets on. It
would turn over freely, but still not start. My brother then loosened off the
distributor bolt and tried turning the distributor as I tried turning the key.
It finally fired up, but was revving really high. As soon as he tried to retard
the ignition slightly, it would not fire again. We took the timing belt cover
off and checked the cam timing to the crank and they seemed right. The belt
hadn’t slipped a tooth. We took the rocker cover off and checked the cam marks
on the cam shaft were correct as well, which they were.
A
few more months went by before my brother was fed up looking at the van J I didn’t have off road parking for it (obviously it has not tax
or mot, so couldn’t be parked on the road) so I convinced my parents to have it
on their driveway J
Over
a year later!,. in October 2015 I arranged to meet my brother at my parents’
house to look at it again and fit remote central locking. We removed the fuel
rail and checked all the injectors were squirting fine, checked all the plugs
one by one and they all had a good spark. Then tried to start it again, but it
still had the same problem. It would only run when we advance the distributor,
but would be revving so high we would have to stop it after a few seconds. We
gave up and installed the central locking, removing the key barrels from both
front door handles and filled with P38.
we
know everything mechanical seems to be correct so it is pointing to an
electrical fault. I have downloaded a copy of the Domingo service manual, so I
think we will have to study the electrical diagrams to see if there is a sensor
or something that could be at fault,. The only thing is the manual is in
German, so I think I will be spending many hours on google translate! J
Months
went by again and in June 2016 I went back to give the van a thorough clean. My
brother and my parents both hosed it down from time to time, but I had never
got around to giving it a full detail since I owned it,. And it was looking
rather dirty! The paintwork and rubbers were flat and it had gone green along
the window edges. Door shuts were all very dirty. The interior needed a hoover
and clean, especially where there were dirty hand marks around door frames etc.
I
bought some vw stickers and stuck them over the p38 filled door locks J
Then
set about cleaning the van. I washed and dried it. Then I went over the
bodywork and glass with a claybar (best car detailing product ever!). I polished
the van using a Meguiars DA and polish. Then waxed with Autoglym High Def carnauba
wax, and applied Rain X rain repellent to the windows. I hoovered the carpet
and cleaned the interior with upholstery cleaner (the last time I was at my
parents I took the fuel filler cover off to get a can of colour coded paint to
paint the replacement side door handle, and unfortunately I forgot to bring it
back with me, so it is missing from the pics ;-( ):
Now I just need to brush up on my German and decipher the
wiring diagrams to see if I can solve the running issue! (if anyone has any
suggestions, feel free to contact me, thanks J )
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